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Bleeding!
griessk
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Ok guys: Let me start this with I have never had any spotting between periods, ever. So I am currently 9dpi/dpo. I started implantation bleeding 4dpo and just "knew" I was pregnant. Yes it can happen after 3dpo, just not as common. I have never been pregnant. I work night shift so I didn't go crazy about my temperatures, but now it appears they were probably lower than they should have been. I've had more bleeding, the past two nights and last night, Friday was the worst, probably like a moderate period for most ppl. I don't really have heavy bleeding anymore. Soaked the front half of a liner in about an hour. Yes, not horrible, but I do believe that is more than it's supposed to be and normal bright red. No, its not my period. I've had regular, very predictable periods for as long as I can remember. I can't say I've had actual cramps with it. I have been bloated since insemination and crampy in that way so it's hard to say. Definitely not strong menstrual cramps like I had in the past; early 20s. My doc took one look at my chart and agreed that I need progesterone. She's on vacation. (very connected-small town) I had woke up Wednesday and just "knew" I just wasn't pregnant so I just accepted this is the end and let her go about her trip.
My question is: is it most likely too late for progesterone to save this pregnancy? Has anyone had moderate bleeding and gone on to delivery a healthy baby? Like I said, I feel like it is but I have a shread of hope left and I don't have the personal experience to know if this could be ok. If I did get some cream, would it be harmful in any way?
Sorry for being so lengthy. Just wanted to give as much info as possible.
My question is: is it most likely too late for progesterone to save this pregnancy? Has anyone had moderate bleeding and gone on to delivery a healthy baby? Like I said, I feel like it is but I have a shread of hope left and I don't have the personal experience to know if this could be ok. If I did get some cream, would it be harmful in any way?
Sorry for being so lengthy. Just wanted to give as much info as possible.
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Can progesterone hurt? Absolutely not. Will the GNC cream help, possibly. I have little experience with it. I believe the cream would be better than the capsules that are taken orally, though.
As for implantation bleeding starting so early, I don't doubt that there are folks who have had bleeding at 3/4 dpo and have gone on to be pregnant and carry a healthy baby to term. However, I find it unlikely that the bleeding experienced was actually implantation and it is rather impossible to know since it was so early. It typically takes at least 3/4 days for the egg to even travel through the fallopian tubes.
My first month trying I had irregular bleeding mid-cycle for the first time ever as well. I took many tests and they all were negative. Sometimes I think it just happens. It could have been something was nicked when the insemination was done or it could just be the stress of TTC really messing with our bodies.
What do you mean by your 'temperatures are lower than they should be?' Do you have a chart you could post?
In short, you could absolutely be pregnant and carry the little one to term and the progesterone supplements could only help or have no effect, but certainly couldn't hurt. However, if you are not pregnant they could delay your period from starting so keep in touch with your doctor about when she recommends to discontinue use if you do not have a + HPT/blood test in office.
Have you had your progesterone drawn? If not this month, did you have it drawn before you tried?
Have you been getting - HPTs?
Good luck!
-- As a side note, I have a friend who always seems to get a hematoma each time she is pregnant and it causes substantial to moderate bleeding. So, the bleeding could be something other than implantation, but it doesn't necessarily mean you are or are not pregnant. Nor does it mean the pregnancy is necessarily at risk. In the case of a hematoma the progesterone would not do anything to help it.
Lucky Cycle 14: IVF!! Antagonist Cycle with Lupron Trigger
I would think it would be a good idea to get all your levels checked out. That is quite a lot of days of spotting to be having -- regardless of what is happening. And though it is not a super lot of blood, as you said, it sounds like more than just simple 'spotting,' you know?
As for your temps, I don't think they seem too low. I've had some months where my temperatures hover at the cover line and my progesterone readings have always been fine. Sometimes you just have lower temps, sometimes the coverline is higher than it would be because of an early unusual high temp -- so I wouldn't worry too much about those being low.
You did have a super-duper high spike on CD 15, but I think that may have been a fluke. How off of your usual time did you take that temperature? It could be a lot of things, so I wouldn't be too concerned that it then dropped so much the next day. Overall, from your chart overlay, it looks like you have a pretty consistent temperature shift so that's what really matters.
Good luck with trying the GNC progesterone cream. It can only help, not hurt -- so go for it!
I am sure every month I am pregnant and then I get to 8 DPO and decide I am not. The day that I get a + HPT, I'm sure I will be absolutely shocked . . . since it will be after 8 DPO. I think it's good to be positive and hopeful-- I always try to be. Fingers crossed for you that all turns out well!
Lucky Cycle 14: IVF!! Antagonist Cycle with Lupron Trigger
If you inseminated at home or even had an IUI at a doc's office the more likely culprit is a small scratch on your cervix that occurred during insemination and began to bleed. It can also be a sign of potential fertility issues arising, even if it has never happened before. For instance even having HPV can cause small bouts of bleeding/spotting and you wouldn't be aware of it unless you had been previously diagnosed. I would definitely get testing done.
IF you are indeed pregnant, but I would wait to have this confirmed either via +HPT or preferably a bloodtest, then progesterone wont hurt but may also absolutely not help if you are already experience a very early loss (but again I doubt this). I am surprised your doc isn't doing bloodwork to check beta levels and see whats really going on knowing you are TTC.
Hang in there! Hope you have answers soon...
October 2014
Have you thought about trying Soy Isoflavones?(works like Clomid) you could get it at a GNC store. You take it for 5 days and maybe think about trying vitamin B6 for your LP.
BFP- 8/9/09 at 10DPO, after 4 years TTC. Sydnee born on April 14th 2010. BFP #2 at 11DPO 9/29/12. Due 6/11/13
There had been a +OPK in there originally, but now with the corrected temps and it removed -- as you said you didn't get one -- I would say get all your levels checked out before you try again. It's hard to read your cycles that are in the chart overlay, but if you can see them and say there isn't much of a temp shift -- I wouldn't invest any more money into sperm until I knew what was going on.
Good luck to you!
Lucky Cycle 14: IVF!! Antagonist Cycle with Lupron Trigger
Lucky Cycle 14: IVF!! Antagonist Cycle with Lupron Trigger
I see what you mean now about not seeing a clear thermal shift. Do you always take your temp at the same time? Do you have a routine you follow? What I'm getting at is if there is a reason your BBT isn't a great tool for you or if there's a hormonal reason. Have you had any testing done? When you have the + OPKs on your charts, were those all actually + OPKs you got or were you just assuming that's when you'd have one?
Lucky Cycle 14: IVF!! Antagonist Cycle with Lupron Trigger